Used 2023 Toyota 4Runner for Sale nearSherwood Park, AB
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- White
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 119,115
- Stock #:
- T02875A
- VIN:
- JTERU5JR1N6048080

-$1,998

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2022 Toyota 4Runner
TRD Off-Road Premium 4WD
119,115 km
$52,898
$50,900
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- Black
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 35,876
- Stock #:
- 22B1290
- VIN:
- JTESU5JR3N6051290

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2022 Toyota 4Runner
TRD Sport 4WD
35,876 km
$57,906
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 91,628
- Stock #:
- YE7001
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JRXN6037001

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2022 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
91,628 km
$47,499
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 65,779
- Stock #:
- SW6662
- VIN:
- JTEMU5JR4N5988423

2022 Toyota 4Runner
SR5 4WD
65,779 km
$47,899
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 91,628
- Stock #:
- YE7001
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JRXN6037001

2022 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
91,628 km
$47,499
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 98,795
- Stock #:
- CW4839
- VIN:
- JTESU5JR3N6044839

2022 Toyota 4Runner
TRD Sport 4WD
98,795 km
$48,900
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 84,675
- Stock #:
- KS80162A
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR3N6036627

2022 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
84,675 km
$48,997
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 59,857
- Stock #:
- PCH4267
- VIN:
- JTERU5JR6P6154267

2023 Toyota 4Runner
TRD Off-Road 4WD
59,857 km
$56,900
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 106,010
- Stock #:
- 26TU8358B
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR5N6056264

-$1,000
2022 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
106,010 km
$45,997
$44,997
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 112,387
- Stock #:
- PW2267
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR1N6045844

2022 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
112,387 km
$49,998
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- White (Blizzard Pearl)
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Interior colour:
- Redwood
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 42,936
- Stock #:
- F7UM58
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR5P6202083

2023 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
42,936 km
$59,346
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 83,915
- Stock #:
- PC0157
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JRXP6150157

2023 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
83,915 km
$54,999
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- Black
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 35,876
- Stock #:
- 22B1290
- VIN:
- JTESU5JR3N6051290

2022 Toyota 4Runner
TRD Sport 4WD
35,876 km
$57,906
CarGurus Analysis:
2023 Toyota 4Runner
With 124 currently listed for sale and an average price of $55,415 CAD, 34.7% of 2023 Toyota 4Runners for sale on CarGurus are rated as good or great deals.
Favourably reviewed: Owners rated the 2023 Toyota 4Runner 4.78 / 5 stars and CarGurus experts gave it a 7 / 10.
100.0% of 2023 4Runner models on CarGurus are accident free.
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 82,026
- Stock #:
- 26RH2892A
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR4N6037267

2022 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
82,026 km
$49,997
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- White
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 119,115
- Stock #:
- T02875A
- VIN:
- JTERU5JR1N6048080

-$1,998
2022 Toyota 4Runner
TRD Off-Road Premium 4WD
119,115 km
$52,898
$50,900
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 147,517
- Stock #:
- GPW3693
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR3N6049166

2022 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
147,517 km
$47,477
- Year:
- 2024
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- Black
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 49,978
- Stock #:
- 2602078A
- VIN:
- JTENU5JR4R6235415

2024 Toyota 4Runner
SR5 4WD
49,978 km
$59,986
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- White
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Interior colour:
- Black
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 58,310
- Stock #:
- 6094311W
- VIN:
- JTERU5JR0P6094311

2023 Toyota 4Runner
58,310 km
$60,718
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- Gray (Magnetic Grey (Met))
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 30,397
- Stock #:
- 3J00307
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR8P6198613

2023 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
30,397 km
$62,538
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- Black
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 56,291
- Stock #:
- 6TY6429A
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR7P6144283

2023 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
56,291 km
$58,990
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- All-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- Gray
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Interior colour:
- Black
- Transmission:
- Automatic
- Mileage:
- 77,067
- Stock #:
- 26146B
- VIN:
- JTEKU5JR2P6153425

2023 Toyota 4Runner
Limited 4WD
77,067 km
$59,564
- Year:
- 2023
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Exterior colour:
- Gray
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 91,890
- Stock #:
- SC1669
- VIN:
- JTESU5JR0P6091152

2023 Toyota 4Runner
TRD Sport 4WD
91,890 km
$55,888
- Year:
- 2022
- Make:
- Toyota
- Model:
- 4Runner
- Body type:
- SUV / Crossover
- Doors:
- 4 doors
- Drivetrain:
- Four-Wheel Drive
- Engine:
- 270 hp 4L V6
- Combined gas mileage:
- 14 L/100km
- Fuel type:
- Gasoline
- Transmission:
- 5-Speed Automatic
- Mileage:
- 65,779
- Stock #:
- SW6662
- VIN:
- JTEMU5JR4N5988423

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2022 Toyota 4Runner
SR5 4WD
65,779 km
$47,899
CarGurus Analysis: 2023 Toyota 4Runner
overall

Summary
With 124 currently listed for sale and an average price of $55,415 CAD, 34.7% of 2023 Toyota 4Runners for sale on CarGurus are rated as good or great deals.
Favourably reviewed: Owners rated the 2023 Toyota 4Runner 4.78 / 5 stars and CarGurus experts gave it a 7 / 10.
100.0% of 2023 4Runner models on CarGurus are accident free.
Why it stands out
The 2023 Toyota 4Runner stands out as a traditional SUV that still makes sense for specific buyers. It has been 13 years since Toyota last redesigned it, yet it remains a rough-and-tumble vehicle that has aged gracefully in many respects. Toyota has also kept its technology at minimum standards while using new trim levels and special editions to keep interest alive.
For 2023, the 4Runner gains standard blind-spot monitoring with rear cross-traffic alert, which adds useful everyday reassurance. It is also available as a limited-production 40th Anniversary Special Edition, giving buyers a more distinctive version of an already recognisable SUV. The 4Runner’s strengths are its off-road fun, spaciousness, and easy-to-use technology, which help explain why it continues to appeal despite its age.
That said, the 2023 Toyota 4Runner is not the best choice for everyone. Its safety ratings are unimpressive, its fuel economy is poor, and its on-road handling is also a weak point. In other words, it is most appealing to shoppers who value its rugged character and practicality more than modern refinement.
Other model years to consider
- Average price: $50,426 CAD
- Good/great deal percentage: 36.8%
- User rating: 4.78 / 5
- Total listings: 152
- Average price: $44,490 CAD
- Good/great deal percentage: 34.4%
- User rating: 4.85 / 5
- Total listings: 131
- Average price: $47,407 CAD
- Good/great deal percentage: 39.7%
- User rating: 4.77 / 5
- Total listings: 136
This analysis is based on CarGurus' proprietary market data from September 14, 2026, CarGurus experts' opinions, and generative AI.
4.8 Overall rating
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Tom S
Reviewed a 2023 Toyota Limited 4WD on Dec 18, 2025
4runner is everything I expected. It has everything we need as a family of five. The layout of the dashboard is easy to use and easy to acclimate to.
Brian A
Reviewed a 2023 Toyota SR5 Premium 4WD on Jul 25, 2026
The Toyota 4Runner is just about perfect! The third row is an added bonus when needed. The additional safety features on the 2023 is definitely a plus for a teen driver.
Isaiah L
Reviewed a 2023 Toyota Limited 4WD on Jan 9, 2025
All it’s missing is an automatic shutting trunk. Other than that, amazing!
Robert R
Reviewed a 2023 Toyota 4Runner on Feb 17, 2024
The ORP pkg had all the options I wanted and had low miles as well. Comfort, convenience and even the color I preferred. The engine has a history of reliability and it should hold its value over time.
2023 Toyota 4Runner Trims
| Trim type | MSRP |
|---|---|
| TRD Pro 4WD | $54,620 |
| TRD Off-Road 4WD | $44,000 |
| SR5 4WD | $42,030 |
| TRD Sport 4WD | $44,890 |
| Limited 4WD | $51,425 |
2023 Toyota 4Runner Price Trends
CarGurus tracks the prices of millions of used car listings every year. See how the average price of 2023 Toyota 4Runner prices has changed over time.
See more price trendsHow much does the 2023 Toyota 4Runner cost?
| Metric | Value |
|---|---|
| Current Average Price | $55,319 CAD |
| Year-Round Low | $54,865 CAD |
| Year-Round High | $60,460 CAD |
| Average Price a Year Ago | $60,480 CAD |
| Change vs. Last Year | −8.53% |
Prices have softened 8.53% compared to this time last year, making it a favourable time to shop this model year.
There are 123 listings available, which suggests you have a reasonable amount of inventory to compare.
Is the 2023 Toyota 4Runner a good car?
Yes — the 2023 Toyota 4Runner earns a 4.78/5 user rating and a 7/10 expert rating, which points to broad owner satisfaction and solid overall appeal.
The standout strength is Look and feel at 10/10.
Owners repeatedly praise its reliability, comfort, strong performance, spacious third row, and solid interior layout and features. That lines up well with the 4Runner’s use case as a rugged, traditional SUV that still works for families who want space and a more adventurous character.
The trade-offs are clear: the expert notes call out poor on-road handling and weak fuel economy, so this is better suited to you if you value capability and practicality over refinement. Even so, 33.3% of listings are priced as good or great deals, which gives you some room to shop selectively.
Is the 2023 Toyota 4Runner reliable?
Owners rate it 4.78/5, a strong signal of long-term satisfaction.
Owner feedback highlights reliability, comfort, and a dependable feel, with several comments pointing to a vehicle you can count on over time. The expert notes also describe it as having a reputation for legendary reliability and feeling indestructible, which reinforces its durability-focused appeal.
Toyota’s simple, effective approach to the 4Runner’s hardware and cabin controls supports that reputation, and the model’s rugged construction suggests it is built for long-term use. For used buyers, the main ownership risk is that age-related wear may show up in fuel costs, ride quality, and everyday refinement before it shows up in outright mechanical failure.
What should I look for when buying a used 2023 Toyota 4Runner?
Key things to evaluate:
- Trim level: The 40th Anniversary Special Edition is based on the SR5 trim level and adds retro stripes, a heritage grille, bronze 17-inch wheels, bronze badges and stitching, floor mats, and a numbered dashboard plaque. It is limited to black, white, or red paint with a black artificial leather interior, while the broader lineup also includes SR5, TRD Sport, Limited, TRD Off-Road, and TRD Pro.
- Powertrain: Every 2023 4Runner uses a 4.0-litre V6 with a five-speed automatic and standard 4WD. The Limited gets full-time 4WD, while other versions use part-time 4WD. Fuel economy is poor, and the expert notes average 13.9 L/100 km in testing.
- Safety package: Toyota Safety Sense includes forward-collision warning with pedestrian detection, automatic emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, lane-departure warning, and automatic high-beam headlights. Blind-spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert are standard on every trim level.
- Infotainment: The biggest touchscreen is 8 inches, and the system includes Apple CarPlay, Android Auto, SiriusXM satellite radio, and available connected services. Navigation and a JBL premium audio system are available, and the interface is designed to stay easy to use even with gloves on.
- Fuel efficiency: Natural Resources Canada rates it at 13.8 L/100 km in combined driving, and the expert test recorded 13.9 L/100 km.
Which 2023 Toyota 4Runner trim should I buy?
The 2023 Toyota 4Runner is offered in 6 trim levels: SR5, TRD Sport, Limited, 40th Anniversary Special Edition, TRD Off-Road, and TRD Pro.
Here's the short version:
- SR5: This is the starting point and the basis for the 40th Anniversary Special Edition, so it makes sense if you want the core 4Runner experience without paying for extra styling or hardware.
- TRD Sport: Choose this if you want the on-road-focused suspension tuning that improves athleticism without moving into the more specialised off-road trims.
- Limited: This is the best fit if you want the full-time 4WD system and a more road-oriented setup.
- 40th Anniversary Special Edition: This is the most distinctive choice, with retro styling and limited production appeal, but it is mainly for buyers who value appearance and exclusivity.
- TRD Off-Road: Pick this if you want the suspension that improves wheel articulation by disconnecting the sway bars.
- TRD Pro: This is the most capable performance-oriented version, with a skid plate and Fox shocks tuned for high-speed dirt driving.
Blind-spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert are standard on every trim level.
Is now a good time to buy a used 2023 Toyota 4Runner?
This is a moderate market for selective buyers, so it makes sense to compare listings carefully and move quickly on the right one.
- Deal availability: 33.3% of listings are priced as good or great deals.
- Inventory: There are 123 listings available.
- Price trend: Prices have softened 8.53% compared with last year.
If you find a listing below $54,865 CAD, that's toward the low end of the year-round range and worth acting on quickly.
What is the 2023 Toyota 4Runner's resale value?
The current average of $55,319 CAD sits slightly below last year's $60,480 CAD.
That softer pricing can help you as a buyer today, but it also suggests future sellers may face more competition if the market stays well supplied. Because the 4Runner’s price has already moved down from last year’s level, resale value may depend more on condition, trim desirability, and mileage than on broad market momentum.
Vehicles with strong owner satisfaction ratings, like this model year's 4.78/5, tend to retain buyer demand, which supports resale value over time.
Is the 2023 Toyota 4Runner safe?
The 2023 Toyota 4Runner earns an overall four-star rating from NHTSA, with no better than a three-star rating for front passenger protection in a frontal-impact collision and a three-star rating for rollover resistance.
It earns a 3/10 safety score from our experts.
Toyota Safety Sense includes forward-collision warning with pedestrian detection, automatic emergency braking, adaptive cruise control, lane-departure warning, and automatic high-beam headlights. Blind-spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert are standard on every trim level this year.
The main caveat is the crash-test performance: the IIHS gives it a Marginal rating for driver protection in the small overlap frontal-impact test, which is a notable weakness for used shoppers who prioritise safety.
Should I buy a 2023 Toyota 4Runner or consider a different year?
If you're weighing the 2023 against nearby model years, here's how to think about it:
Choose the 2023 if:
- 33.3% of listings are priced as good or great deals.
- Price trend: Prices have softened 8.53% compared with last year.
- Owners rate it 4.78/5 — a strong satisfaction signal.
- It adds standard blind-spot monitoring and rear cross-traffic alert, plus the limited-production 40th Anniversary Special Edition.
Consider the 2022 if:
- At $50,348 CAD, the 2022 costs less than the current year's $55,319 CAD average.
- It keeps the rugged, adventure-ready character while staying relevant with modern infotainment and safety tech.
Consider the 2024 if:
- At $55,685 CAD, the 2024 costs more than the current year's $55,319 CAD average.
- It adds a strong reputation for reliability and durability, but still trails newer rivals in technology and efficiency.
The bottom line: If you want the best balance of price movement, owner satisfaction, and updated safety equipment, the 2023 is the sensible pick. If your priority is saving money, the 2022 is the better value path; if you want to stay closer to the newer model-year market, the 2024 is the alternative to compare.
These recommendations are based on CarGurus' proprietary market data from September 15, 2026, CarGurus experts' opinions, and generative AI.
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