Can you help me an understanding of this apparent ABS brake issue?

Asked by LJ Nov 10, 2023 at 10:14 AM about the 2013 Toyota Prius

Question type: Maintenance & Repair

I was driving my car and felt a weird sensation below my non-driving foot while
depressing the brake. In about 5 miles I started to hear a metallic sound again
when hitting the brake but not if I did it softly. I took the car to my mechanic
whose young associate diagnosed it as the ABS pump and needing
replacement. I was not confident with his answers to my questions so decided
I needed to get someone else for the repair. He said it would be quite costly. I
was wondering firstly if I had to be concerned with the brakes failing (drove
maybe 5 miles since the issue began) or can I drive it safely a few miles such
as to a repair shop? And also is it possible to use a pre-owned part if it is truly
that issue to save on cost as I see them advertised? Any other info would be
greatly appreciated. Thank you Larry

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38,915

A simple brake inspection with the wheel off could show what's wrong , I don't think those ABS pumps go bad too often and maybe find another mechanic or invest in some tools

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The ABS (Antilock Braking System) doesn't affect the regular braking function of the brake system. It's perfectly safe. Unless, of course, you have a low or spongy pedal, or hear scraping/grinding sounds when you apply the brakes. The fact that you felt the brake pedal pulsating tells me the ABS pump and modulator IS working. Maybe not when you need it to, but it's working. What you describe sounds like a bad ABS wheel speed sensor to me. Possibly a sensor is worn out or dirty from brake dust causing it to activate the ABS when it shouldn't. Is the ABS light on the dash on? Did it come on? When you first start the engine the ABS computer runs a self diagnosis. If everything is good, the ABS light on the dash goes out. This part of the test checks the wheel speed sensors, wiring, and the computer itself. If there's a problem, the ABS light on the dash will stay on. Then when you shift into gear and the vehicle starts moving the computer tests the ABS pump and modulator assembly. If the test fails, the ABS light on the dash will come back on. If you listen closely you may be able to hear the pump run for a few seconds during this test. If the test passes the ABS light on the dash will remain off. Another thing to remember is there will be a trouble code in the ABS computer if the ABS light on the dash is on. However, once you turn off the ignition the code is cleared until you start the engine again and the light comes back on. So, if the ABS light comes on, drive to your local service facility and DO NOT turn off the engine so they can plug their scan tool into the ABS computer and get the trouble code. Remind them not to shut off the engine until they get the code. I'd definitely get a second opinion. I'm sure the 18 year old "tech" has absolutely no idea what he's doing or looking at!! Hope that helps!! Jim

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